In this episode, Steve Carter interviews Nancy Beach and her daughter Samantha Beach Kiley一two women humbly modeling what it looks like to lead the church in a skeptical age. They are both pastors, leaders, and champions of the local church.

Steve unpacks a recent sermon Samantha delivered at Church on Morgan in Raleigh, NC and the way she writes her messages with such verbal precision.

Nancy and Samantha love the local church and they spend time unpacking how they would debrief moments in a service or sermon around the kitchen island most weekends.

Their forthcoming book, which they co-authored, looks honestly at issues plaguing the church: racism, patriarchy, exclusivity, abuse, and unchecked power. In light of these sobering realities, Nancy and Samantha are hopeful about the future of the church and fiercely committed to seeing it thrive.

This conversation showcases the beautiful dynamic of a mother and daughter partnering in life and ministry一and also what it looks like when a veteran leader champions the next generation.

EPISODE LINKS

Nancy and Samantha’s book: Next Sunday: An Honest Dialogue About the Future of the Church

Website: nancylbeach.com

@NancyLBeach

@SamanthaBeachk

@steveryancarter

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