Have you ever felt like you said too much, or too little in your sermon? In this episode, Matt Woodley and Kevin Miller will help you “say what you need to say,” nothing more and nothing less. Every part of your sermon counts, especially introductions and conclusions. Matt shares the challenge of balancing humor, while pointing people to Christ. For a sermon to be a home run, you need to trust your hearers – that they are really listening to you.

Here’s what was referenced on the podcast:

Tim Wu’s book The Attention Merchants: The Epic Scramble to Get Inside Our Heads. Knopf, 2016.

Matt Woodley is the pastor of compassion ministries at Church of the Resurrection in Wheaton, Illinois.